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July 3 2014
Guest: Dr. Cyril Wecht and Sheryl McCollum

Dr. Cyril Wecht, author of β€œFinal Exam”
Sheryl McCollum, Director of Cold Case Investigative Research Institute

07-03-2014 07:21:45
Frank Stumpanatra

Heya David

07-03-2014 07:22:02
David Bailey

good evening

07-03-2014 07:28:09
Frank Stumpanatra

Heya Trish

07-03-2014 07:28:11
Tricia Arrington Griffith

hi. is it just you two?

07-03-2014 07:28:29
Frank Stumpanatra

It’s earlyyet, don’t fret

07-03-2014 07:28:40
David Bailey

Hi Tricia

07-03-2014 07:28:59
Tricia Arrington Griffith

I will be busy setting up. back in a bit. thanks for your help

07-03-2014 07:42:57
ladynicole

hi, first time listening

07-03-2014 07:43:04
Frank Stumpanatra

Welcome!

07-03-2014 07:43:09
David Bailey

Welcome πŸ™‚

07-03-2014 07:43:12
ladynicole

Thank You!

07-03-2014 07:43:45
David Bailey

In a few minutes you may listen live at http://www.iheart.com/live/Extreme-Talk-6302/

07-03-2014 07:44:10
ladynicole

ok great!

07-03-2014 07:49:08
Frank Stumpanatra

Welcome Bridgette!

07-03-2014 07:49:10
David Bailey

Welcome πŸ™‚

07-03-2014 07:49:32
Bridgette Gubernatis

Hello
πŸ™‚

07-03-2014 07:50:26
Frank Stumpanatra

Hi Erica!

07-03-2014 07:50:36
Erica Hoelscher

Good evening! I guess we’re using our real life names lol.

07-03-2014 07:50:47
ladynicole

oops i missed that memo

07-03-2014 07:50:48
Frank Stumpanatra

LOL No, I’m not.

07-03-2014 07:51:01
Erica Hoelscher

I’m ricky ticky on websleuths

07-03-2014 07:51:11
Frank Stumpanatra

Oh Hi! I’m Sleuth5

07-03-2014 07:51:16
David Bailey

You can always login as a guest, using any name you choose.

07-03-2014 07:51:39
Erica Hoelscher

Good idea, David

07-03-2014 07:53:02
Frank Stumpanatra

WB Trish, chewy, Rebecca

07-03-2014 07:53:47
rebecca

im new to this how does the true crime radio show start

07-03-2014 07:53:57
Tricia Arrington Griffith

hi guys. if I miss a good question can someone please tezt it to me ? HI EVERYONE. IM STRESSED. BUT HAPPY. BAVK IN A BIT

07-03-2014 07:54:03
Chewy

New to this when does the show start

07-03-2014 07:54:12
David Bailey

You may listen live at http://www.iheart.com/live/Extreme-Talk-6302/

07-03-2014 07:54:20
Frank Stumpanatra

Sure, Trish.

07-03-2014 07:54:26
Chewy

ninjaed!

07-03-2014 07:54:30
David Bailey

Just a few minutes away

07-03-2014 07:54:49
Tricia Arrington Griffith

chewy see that link to iHeart at the top of rhe page? click on that at 8 eastern
Dave can you post the link in chat please

07-03-2014 07:55:38
Frank Stumpanatra

Just note that it doesn’t start exactly at 5:00 (8:00 EST), usually a few minutes past the hour.

07-03-2014 07:56:05
David Bailey

You may listen live at http://www.iheart.com/live/Extreme-Talk-6302/

07-03-2014 07:56:10
ladynicole

im listening now, will it automatically switch over to tricia’s show?

07-03-2014 07:56:21
Frank Stumpanatra

Yes.

07-03-2014 07:56:25
David Bailey

yes after the news

07-03-2014 07:56:27
ladynicole

ok, ty

07-03-2014 07:56:46
David Bailey

yw

07-03-2014 07:56:47
Frank Stumpanatra

Hi Grace!

07-03-2014 07:57:28
GraceWilson

hi frank
This case is just absolutely horrible

07-03-2014 07:58:27
ladynicole

agree grace, so sad

07-03-2014 07:58:31
Frank Stumpanatra

Yes, a bad one.
Welcome, Nikki.

07-03-2014 08:02:49
Nikki San Diego

Thank you Frank. Evening, All!

07-03-2014 08:02:59
GraceWilson

good evening Nikki

07-03-2014 08:03:04
ladynicole

evening nikki

07-03-2014 08:03:10
Nikki San Diego

Hiya Grace, Nicole
Show hasn’t begun yet, yeah? It’s news?

07-03-2014 08:03:47
ladynicole

im hearing news

07-03-2014 08:03:47
Frank Stumpanatra

Just a couple more minutes

07-03-2014 08:03:49
GraceWilson

yes

07-03-2014 08:04:02
Frank Stumpanatra

Almost there

07-03-2014 08:04:03
Nikki San Diego

TY, just wanted to make sure I clicked on the correct link. Cheers.

07-03-2014 08:05:56
Frank Stumpanatra

Hi Trish!

07-03-2014 08:06:48
Trish Nielsen

Hi. I hear sports news – I clicked on the link above. Is that right?

07-03-2014 08:06:58
David Bailey

Yes Trish

07-03-2014 08:07:02
Frank Stumpanatra

Yes, usually takes a few minutes past the hour.

07-03-2014 08:08:09
GraceWilson

omg, I can’t believe that statement

07-03-2014 08:08:17
ladynicole

yes, that was so insensitive

07-03-2014 08:08:43
Frank Stumpanatra

Hi Randy!

07-03-2014 08:08:48
Chewy

the leftovers comment OMG he was an idiot

07-03-2014 08:08:50
GraceWilson

wow, Dr Wecht is here!

07-03-2014 08:08:59
Randy Tolen

Hi Frank…..folks!

07-03-2014 08:09:05
GraceWilson

Hi Randy

07-03-2014 08:09:14
Randy Tolen

Can’t wait to hear how Sheryl sizes this up….
Hi Grace!

07-03-2014 08:09:42
David Bailey

You may now listen live at http://www.iheart.com/live/Extreme-Talk-6302/

07-03-2014 08:10:04
Erica Hoelscher

They went to Chick Fil A first?

07-03-2014 08:10:10
GraceWilson

yes Erica

07-03-2014 08:10:14
ladynicole

yes they had breakfast

07-03-2014 08:10:17
Chewy

Yes!

07-03-2014 08:10:32
David Bailey

gies the appearance of normal

07-03-2014 08:10:33
Erica Hoelscher

No way you could forget the child that fast right after breakfast.

07-03-2014 08:10:35
David Bailey

gives

07-03-2014 08:10:52
Chewy

keep listening Tricia is explaining

07-03-2014 08:11:02
courtchatter

Hello everyone!

07-03-2014 08:11:08
ladynicole

hi cc

07-03-2014 08:11:09
David Bailey

Hi CC

07-03-2014 08:11:29
GraceWilson

Hi CC

07-03-2014 08:11:38
courtchatter

I’m at the MacNeill courthouse waiting for a verdict to come so I just started the archive of the Harris hearing today

07-03-2014 08:12:13
Frank Stumpanatra

Hola CC

07-03-2014 08:12:46
CourtChatterTV

hello yall

07-03-2014 08:12:57
GraceWilson

Hi CCTV

07-03-2014 08:13:00
Frank Stumpanatra

Hola CCTV

07-03-2014 08:13:04
ladynicole

hi cctv

07-03-2014 08:13:30
Erica Hoelscher

Thank you, cctv. I will look for it later.

07-03-2014 08:14:16
David Bailey

So that was as far as he coud go with the smell overcoming him

07-03-2014 08:14:26
GraceWilson

sounds like it David
Not too mention the smell of the bowel evacuation at tod, sitting in a dirty diaper in the heat, unbelievable

07-03-2014 08:15:12
Erica Hoelscher

I can’t imagine RH thinking he would get away with this.

07-03-2014 08:15:38
Frank Stumpanatra

Hola LadyOwl, KitKat

07-03-2014 08:15:38
GraceWilson

hi ladyowl, kitkat

07-03-2014 08:15:42
kitkat

Good Evening folks

07-03-2014 08:15:52
David Bailey

I wonder where he was intending to go and what his plan was up until he was overcome with the smell.

07-03-2014 08:15:58
Erica Hoelscher

Hi kitkat, ladyowl.

07-03-2014 08:16:11
1961LadyOwl

hello

07-03-2014 08:16:11
David Bailey

I hate even saying that

07-03-2014 08:16:38
Randy Tolen

Something VERY odd about the mother. Today in court she showed zero emotion hearing about hubby’s sexting w/6 women while breaking up at hearing what a "great dad" he was.

07-03-2014 08:17:13
David Bailey

I agree about mom, I fully expect her to become a suspect as well
You may now listen live at http://www.iheart.com/live/Extreme-Talk-6302/

07-03-2014 08:18:47
GraceWilson

I wonder if he will turn evidence against to get a lesser sentence?
like she made me do it

07-03-2014 08:19:22
David Bailey

I do not think so, I expect ib his mind he wants to get back with her when he gets out at 117 years old

07-03-2014 08:19:26
Erica Hoelscher

idk, David. Maybe RH was just trying to get away from work and was waiting to be "moved" to start his Big Show.

07-03-2014 08:19:46
ladynicole

that poor baby

07-03-2014 08:20:18
kitkat

they should both be hung imo

07-03-2014 08:20:30
1961LadyOwl

mine too kit

07-03-2014 08:20:39
ladynicole

poor thing was strapped in tight

07-03-2014 08:20:49
kitkat

and there’s way more than we know yet

07-03-2014 08:21:38
GraceWilson

i bet

07-03-2014 08:21:38
Frank Stumpanatra

Hello Custard.

07-03-2014 08:21:54
custard pie

hi frank
and hi court chatters and everyone else πŸ™‚

07-03-2014 08:22:18
ladynicole

hi custard

07-03-2014 08:22:21
courtchatter

Hi custard!

07-03-2014 08:22:28
custard pie

hello lady
cc πŸ™‚

07-03-2014 08:22:47
kitkat

hi custard

07-03-2014 08:22:56
Nikki San Diego

Just curious. If you don’t want your child, are you able to put him/her up for adoption? Is that legal & if so, why didn’t they do this? Could they really kill their own child for $25K?! That’s unbelievable.

07-03-2014 08:23:04
Erica Hoelscher

Sexting at work?! 😯

07-03-2014 08:23:12
GraceWilson

can we ask Dr. Wecht if Cooper would be in full rigor at noon?

07-03-2014 08:23:17
ladynicole

i think so nikki, most states if not all have a safe drop off place

07-03-2014 08:23:20
David Bailey

I spent yesterday driving around with my young grandson. Went to see the horses and the new mommy horse and baby. went to lunch with a pal and had a boy day.this makes me sick

07-03-2014 08:23:21
Frank Stumpanatra

People kill people all the time for a lot less, sadly, Nikki.

07-03-2014 08:24:31
CourtChatterTV

The father had told the mother that he was peaceful looking. You can’t be peaceful looking in Rigor and Liver mortis

07-03-2014 08:24:48
Nikki San Diego

Yes, you’re right, Frank. If this was in their minds, I shudder to think how the baby was treated at home.

07-03-2014 08:24:50
Chewy

I bet more parents do this than we realize

07-03-2014 08:24:52
GraceWilson

Hi KZ

07-03-2014 08:24:53
ladynicole

agree cctv, nothing peaceful at all

07-03-2014 08:25:20
KZ

Hi!

07-03-2014 08:25:29
Chewy

Is there any way to tell forensically

07-03-2014 08:25:29
Frank Stumpanatra

Oh, yes, Chewy. I think a lot of children are killed.

07-03-2014 08:25:37
ladynicole

hi kz

07-03-2014 08:25:41
Frank Stumpanatra

Hola KZ

07-03-2014 08:25:48
Erica Hoelscher

I shudder to think what effect this case is having on those who have done the same thing *by accident.* πŸ™

07-03-2014 08:26:03
David Bailey

Sad Erica

07-03-2014 08:26:08
KZ

πŸ™‚ glad I found u all.

07-03-2014 08:26:08
CourtChatterTV

he needs to hear every detail about how a person dies in a car, but then again, he already watched that veterinarian’s video twice!

07-03-2014 08:26:30
Frank Stumpanatra

True

07-03-2014 08:26:46
David Bailey

Link to his new book at the top of this page
GRRRRRRRR
hate that word

07-03-2014 08:30:42
Tricia Arrington Griffith

hi guys. any questions?

07-03-2014 08:30:58
kitkat

hi tricia

07-03-2014 08:31:15
David Bailey

What more do we know about mom? what did she really know

07-03-2014 08:31:43
Erica Hoelscher

I’ve researched a lot of things on-line…that I don’t participate in. The police seemed to suspect RH immediately. Why?

07-03-2014 08:32:19
Frank Stumpanatra

Hola Sulamith!

07-03-2014 08:32:21
Chewy

Because of the smell

07-03-2014 08:32:30
Nikki San Diego

Yes, Tricia, I was wondering if anyone thought this could be something they would have done again, for example, they had a $25K life ins policy on their son but he was chatting up young girls. Were they trying to lure in young girls to do something similar… take them in, take out policies on their lives??

07-03-2014 08:32:34
Sulamith

Hi Frank!

07-03-2014 08:32:41
David Bailey

You research and it never happens in RL he researches (like Casey) and viola there it is in RL

07-03-2014 08:32:48
Frank Stumpanatra

Hmmm good question Nikki.

07-03-2014 08:32:49
Erica Hoelscher

Were grandparents or other relatives of Cooper present at the hearing?

07-03-2014 08:32:50
Chewy

Motive Tricia

07-03-2014 08:33:22
kitkat

his parents were there

07-03-2014 08:33:31
GraceWilson

Tricia, I have a question, did police ask Ross to get off the phone at the crime scene and he cursed at him? I didn’t hear that at the hearing, but then I didn’t listen to all of it, it was a statement made at another blog

07-03-2014 08:33:41
ladynicole

I wonder what the email from the day care said. If it said something to the effect that we miss seeing Cooper today, then there’s no way he didn’t know

07-03-2014 08:33:46
David Bailey

mom and dad wanted the childless life

07-03-2014 08:34:20
Nikki San Diego

Was the baby an accidental pregnancy, David & did they marry only as she was pregnant?

07-03-2014 08:34:48
David Bailey

hmmmm don’t know

07-03-2014 08:35:04
Nikki San Diego

How old are they? 30s?

07-03-2014 08:35:09
GraceWilson

LH said it took her time to conceive Cooper at the funeral
RH is 34 I believe

07-03-2014 08:35:53
Nikki San Diego

Wow, Grace. I can’t wrap my head around people like this.

07-03-2014 08:36:47
GraceWilson

I can, my parents were similar. I’m lucky I survived. I’m grateful they weren
they weren’t smart enough to think of life insurance back when I was young

07-03-2014 08:37:32
Nikki San Diego

Sorry, Grace.

07-03-2014 08:37:45
GraceWilson

Thanks Nikki.
I found where he did in fact curse at one of the officers when asked to get off the phone. Unbelievable

07-03-2014 08:39:11
Erica Hoelscher

GraceWilson, do you think Cooper was abused/neglected at home? This can’t be an isolated incident, can it?

07-03-2014 08:39:54
GraceWilson

I don’t have an opinion on that yet, but I would bet that he was ignored and only loved on in front of others.

07-03-2014 08:40:47
Erica Hoelscher

Sorry for your experience, GW.

07-03-2014 08:40:55
David Bailey

OMG I did not hear that

07-03-2014 08:40:58
GraceWilson

Thanks

07-03-2014 08:43:54
Frank Stumpanatra

wb CC

07-03-2014 08:44:09
GraceWilson

I forgot one of my kids in a car once, I was bringing in groceries, other stuff from the car, put them on the couch and completely forgot I left her in the car
took me about 5 minutes to remember

07-03-2014 08:44:37
Frank Stumpanatra

Oh, I’m sure they were fine. πŸ™‚

07-03-2014 08:44:43
GraceWilson

it wasn’t hot out thank god, nor too cold, but I felt like the worst mother in the world

07-03-2014 08:45:04
Frank Stumpanatra

Yes, the operative point is that you remembered quickly.

07-03-2014 08:45:22
GraceWilson

I was scared to tell my husband, I did, but I was afraid he would take her and leave me

07-03-2014 08:45:32
Frank Stumpanatra

Oh goodness!

07-03-2014 08:45:42
custard pie

😐

07-03-2014 08:45:52
Chewy

He tossed the lightbulbs who TOSSES Light bulbs so he could avoid leaning in the car, the DA mentioned this

07-03-2014 08:46:01
GraceWilson

yes, after I put the groceries in the fridge, I went to the living room to take her out of her carseat, and no carseat!!!!!

07-03-2014 08:46:19
Frank Stumpanatra

Yes, but that means you think about them and were concerned.

07-03-2014 08:46:39
GraceWilson

yes Chewy, that was unreal! I place them carefully somewhere they wouldnt get crushed

07-03-2014 08:46:43
custard pie

he went to check if the child was still alive….what a twisted man

07-03-2014 08:46:58
Chewy

Yes, the operative point is that you remembered quickly.<this

07-03-2014 08:47:25
Frank Stumpanatra

Hola Marshmallow!

07-03-2014 08:47:46
Erica Hoelscher

Knowing that this can happen *by accident* I developed a habit of always checking my back seat when I had little ones. But then I’m a little paranoid and hyper-aware of crime thanks to Websleuths.

07-03-2014 08:47:49
Marshmallow

I was forgotten about multiple times as a child….not maliciously, but forgotten.
I have many brothers and sisters and I was a quiet one.

07-03-2014 08:48:15
GraceWilson

I sure did after that!!!!

07-03-2014 08:48:26
Frank Stumpanatra

LOL I can’t count how manytimes my mom forgot to pick me up somewhere.

07-03-2014 08:49:42
Marshmallow

The worst time that I can remember was when I was eavesdropping on my parents and I heard my dad tell my mother that her forgot about me when he told a salesman how many kids he had. I was heartbroken. It still bothers me a little bit.

07-03-2014 08:49:55
David Bailey

Mom would never have forgot me..and miss out on beating me?

07-03-2014 08:49:57
1961LadyOwl

and to think some of us were having sympathy for him…

07-03-2014 08:50:06
Frank Stumpanatra

LOL Dave

07-03-2014 08:50:44
Marshmallow

I keep trying to find a way to be sympathetic to this guy but after today’s hearing, I can’t.

07-03-2014 08:50:47
GraceWilson

sorry Marshmallow, I remember when my parents divorced, the night they broke up they were arguing about who HAD to take us kids. Neither one wanted us. πŸ™

07-03-2014 08:51:03
Erica Hoelscher

Marshmallow, that’s strange. How did your dad know your mom had forgotten you and not just said the wrong number kids? Still, an odd whoopsie.

07-03-2014 08:51:17
Frank Stumpanatra

That is telling when they do not use the name to describe the child.

07-03-2014 08:51:21
Marshmallow

WOW! I’m sorry Grace. The good part though is you were not alone.

07-03-2014 08:51:25
David Bailey

Was kicked out the day of the divorce graduated high school on my own

07-03-2014 08:51:43
1961LadyOwl

after today i would like both parents to burn in h e double hockeystick

07-03-2014 08:52:17
Marshmallow

That is bad David. My parents would not kick me out. I was told once I moved out I could never come back though.

07-03-2014 08:52:43
David Bailey

graduating was the biggest FU I could give them

07-03-2014 08:52:51
Marshmallow

I keep wanting to find excuses for these two people but I cannot after today.

07-03-2014 08:52:53
GraceWilson

good for you David

07-03-2014 08:52:55
ladynicole

its starting to feel like the parents decided that they could become "famous" after this and make money

07-03-2014 08:53:03
Frank Stumpanatra

Good point about not being able to fake grief. It’s always obvious.

07-03-2014 08:53:13
Erica Hoelscher

Oh my goodness I cannot believe all of these rotten parents. (((((((group hug))))))))

07-03-2014 08:54:18
Marshmallow

My parents lost a baby before me and were not emotionally ready for another baby. They were very good people. My placement in the family was unfortunate.

07-03-2014 08:54:26
GraceWilson

I never wanted my kids to leave home!
Dinner time here, nice to meet everyone.

07-03-2014 08:55:03
Erica Hoelscher

Could they have just dropped the baby off at a hospital? Or is that just for newborns?

07-03-2014 08:55:13
David Bailey

Come back next week for more!

07-03-2014 08:55:42
Marshmallow

I love my kids soooooo much! They may not think so at times though. LOL I don’t want my kids to need me. I want them to be independent and to be much more successful than I am. If they turn out better than me, I’ve done my job.

07-03-2014 08:55:46
David Bailey

Erica, in texas there are age limits to drop off a baby at hospital of fire dept.
exactly Marshmallow

07-03-2014 08:56:27
Sulamith

David Bailey, do you live in Texas?

07-03-2014 08:56:35
David Bailey

San Antonio

07-03-2014 08:56:42
Frank Stumpanatra

Yes, well not all parents feel that way, Marshmallow. Many are indifferent.

07-03-2014 08:57:10
Marshmallow

I think it’s wrong that places do not allow people to drop off their kids. There are so many people that would have taken that little boy.

07-03-2014 08:57:13
Sulamith

San Antonio is nice. I live in East Texas…no comment LOL!

07-03-2014 08:58:24
Marshmallow

Cooper looked like a happy boy. His eyes sparkle in the pictures. I keep wanting to believe the parents are good. I gave up after today though.
I want the parents to be good people. The sexting and the mom’s behavior ruined it for me.

07-03-2014 08:59:25
Frank Stumpanatra

Either malignant narcissist or sociopath, in my view.

07-03-2014 09:00:06
kitkat

Great show ..thanks tricia

07-03-2014 09:00:12
Marshmallow

I have never understood how anyone could hurt a child.

07-03-2014 09:00:19
Nikki San Diego

Thank you for the show. G’nite everyone, nice to meet you all! See you again. Happy 4th.

07-03-2014 09:00:26
Frank Stumpanatra

Good job boss.

07-03-2014 09:00:32
Marshmallow

Great show.

07-03-2014 09:00:49
kitkat

we must take our chatters back home ..ty

07-03-2014 09:00:49
Nikki San Diego

The show needs to be 3-4 hrs!

07-03-2014 09:00:50
David Bailey

See everybody back here again next week!

07-03-2014 09:01:08
Frank Stumpanatra

Yes, bye for now

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