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August 20 2015
Guest: Jacqui Bugoon and John Kelly

Tonight on the show Tricia is joined by Jacqui Bugoon to discuss the unsolved murders of J.B. Beasley (Jacqui’s sister) and Tracie Hawlett in 1999. Tricia is also joined by John Kelly to discuss the murder of Neil Falls by a prostitute, Neil may have been an serial killer. And final webslueths administrator Bessie joins us for the weekly “NEXT STEP”

08-20-2015 08:36:06
David Bailey

Good evening

08-20-2015 08:37:09
Tricia

Oh dear. Is it just us?

08-20-2015 08:37:18
David Bailey

4+1

08-20-2015 08:37:25
Linda Jean

(Cracka*Jaxx) I finally remember to tune in and no one is here …

08-20-2015 08:37:42
Tricia

Ok. Busy show tonight that’s for sure

08-20-2015 08:37:50
Linda Jean

Oh, hi, all!

08-20-2015 08:38:41
wendiesan

Good evening all.

08-20-2015 08:38:48
David Bailey

evening

08-20-2015 08:39:12
Linda Jean

I like the new later time, because it is 7pm here now instead of 6pm- dinner time.

08-20-2015 08:40:19
wendiesan

I agree. Out here the show starts at 6:00 local time, so it makes it possible for me to participate more often.

08-20-2015 08:41:08
DeDee

Greetings everyone!

08-20-2015 08:41:15
David Bailey

howdy

08-20-2015 08:41:30
Linda Jean

@wendie-are you in CA?

08-20-2015 08:41:31
wendiesan

Hi DeDee!

08-20-2015 08:41:37
DeDee

So happy that Mark was named POI. Justice for Dylan!

08-20-2015 08:42:14
Linda Jean

We all knew Dylan’s dad is guilty.

08-20-2015 08:42:19
wendiesan

Farther north. I’m in British Columbia–definitely part of Cascadia. I
It’s taken so long for the official acknowledgement of what so many people felt.

08-20-2015 08:42:59
Linda Jean

Oh, that’s far. I’m in New Mexico.

08-20-2015 08:45:23
wendiesan

Yeah, Linda Jean. We share with San Fran and L.A. the dubious delight of sitting on the San Andreas Fault line.
Hi Takeitfromme

08-20-2015 08:45:36
takeitfromme

i missed what the topic is for the show tonight,, anyone fill me in? 🙂

08-20-2015 08:45:37
David Bailey

hitakeitfromme

08-20-2015 08:45:46
takeitfromme

hey!!!

08-20-2015 08:46:16
beach

Hi all! I’m late to the convo. Here but multi-tasking on WS as well

08-20-2015 08:46:51
wendiesan

I’m also happy that Steven Powell is being sentenced tomorrow. If only he’s say where Susan’s body was hidden.

08-20-2015 08:46:54
beach

Elaine Redwine is the opening guest, I believe… let me look at who else is scheduled

08-20-2015 08:46:58
Linda Jean

@wendie- there are very few natural disasters here. Suits me just fine!

08-20-2015 08:47:31
takeitfromme

thanks beach!

08-20-2015 08:47:32
David Bailey

Show should be starting in about 20 minutes. Click the "Listen Now" link at the top at any time.

08-20-2015 08:47:55
wendiesan

We have a great view of Mt. St. Helen as well.

08-20-2015 08:48:04
beach

Here is what Tricia posted on WS – "Beasley and Tracie Hawlett murders/ John Kelly on Neal Falls Killing "

08-20-2015 08:48:40
David Bailey

*UPDATE* Elaine Redwine joins us to discuss the Dylan Redwine’s father being named a person of interest and the fact that the manner of death has been changed to, “Homicide On August 1st 1999 two 17 year-old friends in Ozark Alabama, J.B. Beasley and Tracie Hawlett set out to go to a party. They became lost on the way. Tracie called her mother and told her they now had directions and were heading home. Later, they were both found shot to death in the trunk of their car. They were last seen at a convenience store about a mile from where their bodies were found. That’s all we know. We’ll talk with Tracie’s sister Jacqui about the case and what life has been like waiting for justice for more than 15 years. Later on the show we are joined by renowned criminal profiler and addiction specialist John Kelly. Kelly discusses the wild case of Neil Falls. Falls was killed by a prostitute who claimed it was self-defense but did the prostitute also kill a serial killer? John Kelly shares his thoughts. Websleuths Admin Bessie joins us with our new feature about our many cold cases called “The Next Step”. Each week Bessie spotlights a cold case and this week we look at the murder case of Wanda June Anderson from 1965.

08-20-2015 08:48:46
Linda Jean

Steven Powell … i haven’t kept up. What did they get him for? When?

08-20-2015 08:48:46
wendiesan

I so admire Elaine’s ability to keep her love for Dylan at the forefront of all she does.
He served time for voyeurism. This time it’s a pornography charge.

08-20-2015 08:49:20
Tricia

Hi all

08-20-2015 08:49:26
wendiesan

Hi Tricia/

08-20-2015 08:50:06
takeitfromme

woohooo! great line up for the show! 🙂 justice is deserved!

08-20-2015 08:50:48
Tricia

Wendiesan are you in Calie? Me too

08-20-2015 08:51:01
beach

Tricia, the posters on Dylan’s thread asked me for you to please pass along to Elaine how much they love and support her. And that they are going to see this through to the end right along with her

08-20-2015 08:51:21
wendiesan

@Linda Jean. He was found guilty of possessing child pornography on July 13, 2015.

08-20-2015 08:52:29
David Bailey

Show should be starting in about 13 minutes. Click the "Listen Now" link at the top at any time.

08-20-2015 08:52:44
wendiesan

@Tricia: No. I’m in Vancouver, B.C. So, close. Sadly, same drought this year as L.A. It’s been like vacationing in L.A. but less expensive.
Thanks, Dave.

08-20-2015 08:53:35
takeitfromme

it’s true… so many people on websleuths, myself included are trekking along with Elaine through this very heartbeaking ordeal… she and dylan deserve justicee

08-20-2015 08:54:04
Linda Jean

Tricia, I thought you were in Utah?
@wendie- At least he’s going to prison for something. Yay!

08-20-2015 08:55:29
beach

Tricia’s home is in Utah but she is mainly living in CA now. She goes back and forth
*waves to Dave* Hi there! how are you?

08-20-2015 08:56:32
Linda Jean

Thanks, beach. I haven’t been keeping up. Been so busy with real life.

08-20-2015 08:57:45
David Bailey

wavin a paw

08-20-2015 08:58:41
wendiesan

@ LJ Yeah. I hope they give him the maximum penalty. I’ve been following the efforts to pass the Charlie and Braden Powell Act. The Coxes have been rocks!! And having to continually fight Alina’s accusations–they are amazingly strong people.

08-20-2015 08:59:47
chubbuh

i like the ad lady’s voice

08-20-2015 09:00:22
takeitfromme

lol

08-20-2015 09:00:59
Susan in Boise

Hi Tricia!

08-20-2015 09:01:11
chubbuh

jimmy carter is an amasing person
how many presidents can say they’ve almost completely eradicated a disease

08-20-2015 09:03:14
David Bailey

brb have to reboot

08-20-2015 09:03:29
beach

ok i’m having issues tonight too

08-20-2015 09:03:42
chubbuh

i think they
*they’re late

08-20-2015 09:05:11
DeDee

I’ve become interested in the Neil Falls case. LEO suspect he was serial killer in several states

08-20-2015 09:05:34
beach

i’m watching the forum too so would someone please post in chat when audio of the show begins? thanks

08-20-2015 09:06:50
wendiesan

@beach I blame interference on the emerging sunspots and storms on Jupiter.

08-20-2015 09:07:10
Linda Jean

I can’t get the app to listen. Can i somehow listen without it?

08-20-2015 09:08:26
wendiesan

Does Elaine know what prompted LE to announce Mark Redwine as the ONLY POI?

08-20-2015 09:08:32
Susan in Boise

I can’t get it to open either

08-20-2015 09:08:39
DeDee

Trish is on

08-20-2015 09:08:45
Linda Jean

I’m even having trouble with chat. The messages are hidden behind the box i’m typing in and I can’t get it to move up. Damn.

08-20-2015 09:08:51
David Bailey

canada may not be abe to listen

08-20-2015 09:09:22
beach

ty

08-20-2015 09:10:05
chubbuh

@wendiesan Mark Redwine has been pretty screwy lately, i think LE is trying to freak him out even more to make him slip up

08-20-2015 09:10:43
wendiesan

No. I can’t listen. The page comes up apologizing, sort of. But that’s because I’m not using a radio, I’m on my trusty MAC. I think the CRTC probably has regulations in place that affect our ability to receive the broadcasts.

08-20-2015 09:11:06
beach

@wendie I believe Elaine knows but to protect the invesigation, will not be able to disclose that info

08-20-2015 09:11:23
DeDee

Click listen now: http://www.truecrimeradio.com/

08-20-2015 09:11:26
wendiesan

@chubbuh Thanks. That makes sense.
Thanks too, beach.

08-20-2015 09:11:52
Linda Jean

I’m on my ipad and I can’t get the app. Why do i need the app to listen? I’m not very computer savvy.

08-20-2015 09:12:12
David Bailey

are you in canada?

08-20-2015 09:12:35
Linda Jean

No. New Mexico.

08-20-2015 09:12:46
beach

Mark suing Elaine – well that just pissed me off to no end. How despicable can he get?!?

08-20-2015 09:13:08
David Bailey

you should still be able to get it by browser

08-20-2015 09:13:13
wendiesan

I think she had to pay him alimony too.

08-20-2015 09:13:32
DeDee

The countersuit is odd. Is the lawyer the same one MR saw on Monday morning?

08-20-2015 09:13:36
wendiesan

@beach

08-20-2015 09:14:11
beach

idk, dedee I cannot imagine any lawyer wanting his case at this point

08-20-2015 09:14:25
Tricia

I am so sorry. We will keep trying Elaine

08-20-2015 09:15:29
chubbuh

@beach well this is a semi high-profile case. any defense attorney would get quite a bit of publicity by being his lawyer

08-20-2015 09:15:45
DeDee

Her alimony stopped and MR was mandated to pay child support.

08-20-2015 09:15:45
chubbuh

like how nobody knew who casey anthony’s attorney was until he won the case

08-20-2015 09:16:20
wendiesan

I think any claims made be Elaine re Domestic Violence will be backed up by another exwife of Mark’s. Thx DeDee re info.
If Mark has no income, won’t the state be obligated to pay his lawyer’s fees and expenses?

08-20-2015 09:17:46
beach

agree chubbuh. He will find someone no doubt

08-20-2015 09:18:20
DeDee

No, states do not assist paying for a countersuit in civil case.

08-20-2015 09:18:39
Linda Jean

I don’t get a choise to listen in browser. Oh, well …

08-20-2015 09:19:01
David Bailey

sorry we gave no control over iheart

08-20-2015 09:19:21
DeDee

JB is on now.

08-20-2015 09:19:30
beach

DeDee is correct re. the civil suit, so we will have to see if the attorney who filed it will follow it through to the end.
however the criminal case, should he be formally charged – all states have provisions to provide access to defense attorneys to those who cannot afford one

08-20-2015 09:22:03
DeDee

My sincerest apologies. JB was a victim. Her aunt is on now.

08-20-2015 09:22:22
Linda Jean

Something is definitely wrong. I don’t get a choice to listen in Browser. Something seems stuck. I guess i’ll try next week. Enjoy!

08-20-2015 09:22:31
beach

I think this is her sister, isn’t it?

08-20-2015 09:22:38
chubbuh

yes

08-20-2015 09:22:44
DeDee

ok

08-20-2015 09:22:44
beach

Sorry Linda!

08-20-2015 09:23:11
DimeDetective

This is J.B.’s sister, Jacqui, speaking with Tricia.

08-20-2015 09:23:37
wendiesan

Found it. "Dr. Phil said Mark’s first wife Betsy had told him that Mark was abusive. Betsy said Mark threatened to take the kids from her several times and that there was an incident when Mark threw her on the ground and repeatedly punched her in the face. “I believe that Mark could do something to harm Dylan because he has a violent temper and he snaps easily,” Besty said. " http://blogs.denverpost.com/coldcases/2014/05/10/dylan/8449/7/

08-20-2015 09:23:42
beach

Ozark, AL is only about 90 miles from me

08-20-2015 09:24:47
wendiesan

Sorry Linda.
thx DeDee

08-20-2015 09:31:24
beach

Here is the link to the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/groups/809543155737416/

08-20-2015 09:31:50
Tricia

Susan in Boise how are you.

08-20-2015 09:31:54
Linda Jean

I managed to get the app and can now hear the show. But I can’t chat AND listen at the same time.

08-20-2015 09:32:08
DeDee

http://wiregrass.com/WIregrass-Talk/afv/post/aff/1/aft/4873/afr/4874
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?252361-AL-J-B-Beasley-17-amp-Tracie-Hawlett-17-Ozark-July-1999-2

08-20-2015 09:32:17
Tricia

I’m i getting through? Yikes

08-20-2015 09:32:42
David Bailey

the app will not run in the background?

08-20-2015 09:32:50
takeitfromme

hi tricia!

08-20-2015 09:32:55
beach

What do you mean, Tricia?

08-20-2015 09:33:41
Linda Jean

I guess not, unless I’m doing something wrong. I’ll try fiddling around.

08-20-2015 09:33:41
Tricia

I mean was my typing working . It wasn’t showing up. Dime detective I am going to give you a shout out. Meant to while talking with Jacqui

08-20-2015 09:34:23
takeitfromme

hi dimedetective.. i’m so sorry for what you have endured… i survive murder victims as well so i understand

08-20-2015 09:34:26
Tricia

Hey take it from me how are you

08-20-2015 09:34:30
beach

I linked the FB page here and joined the group. DeDee, ty for linking the thread!

08-20-2015 09:34:41
takeitfromme

doing good, really love your show tricia

08-20-2015 09:35:10
DeDee

You’re so very welcome!

08-20-2015 09:35:22
takeitfromme

and websleuths! love that forum too!

08-20-2015 09:35:33
DeDee

Tricia is an awesome radio host!

08-20-2015 09:35:56
DimeDetective

Tricia, if you could just ask listeners to join our discussion at Webseluths, that would be great. We need all the help we can get. Thank you for featuring the case on your show.

08-20-2015 09:37:41
DeDee

Applause!

08-20-2015 09:37:41
takeitfromme

i love john kelly!

08-20-2015 09:37:54
beach

Dime, I just sent a FB request under my "real" name. When admitted, I will PM you guys. I’m ad admin at WS and will help in anyway I can. I also live nearby…only about 90 miles from Ozark

08-20-2015 09:38:05
chubbuh

is dark minds ever coming back??

08-20-2015 09:38:41
DeDee

http://www.stalkinc.com/

08-20-2015 09:38:56
DimeDetective

beach, have you posted in the Beasley-Hawlett thread on Webseluths? We’d love to have your help.

08-20-2015 09:40:14
DeDee

I saw her interview. She was so brave!

08-20-2015 09:40:20
chubbuh

that’s one super brave lady
jesus christ

08-20-2015 09:40:59
beach

No, not yet. I am usually mod’g the trials and active missing cases but I will be following that thread now! I wasn’t even aware of the case until tonight. I really try to follow the cases in Alabama and on the MS gulf coast but somehow this one slipped by me

08-20-2015 09:41:53
DeDee

Hiya, SCHMAE!

08-20-2015 09:42:17
beach

I am very familiar with 231 and the surrounding area between Montgomery, Troy, Dothan…. And I have a few connections in the Dothan area. Mostly lawyers and paralegals

08-20-2015 09:42:20
SCHMAE

🙂

08-20-2015 09:42:27
beach

Hi SCHMAE!

08-20-2015 09:42:49
takeitfromme

hi schmae!

08-20-2015 09:43:06
DimeDetective

beach, I’m sure your insight as a local will be invaluable to the discussion.

08-20-2015 09:43:16
DeDee

Dothan has many intelligent residents.

08-20-2015 09:43:37
chubbuh

nomadic serial killers are super scary

08-20-2015 09:44:18
DeDee

So very scary. Worse than the Mad Dog Killer!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?286165-WV-NEAL-FALLS-suspected-SK-LE-seeking-link-to-murders-in-IL-NV-and-OR

08-20-2015 09:46:12
chubbuh

reminds me of israel keyes

08-20-2015 09:46:19
takeitfromme

the scariest with out a doubt

08-20-2015 09:46:26
chubbuh

killing in different locations hundreds of miles apart from each other
and the police don’t even know there is a serial kille
the scariest killers are the ones nobody knows about

08-20-2015 09:49:39
ColoGal

Hello folks. Have I missed Elaine Hall?

08-20-2015 09:49:47
DeDee

From WS post: No history of major crimes in Falls’ record has surfaced. Police said records show, however, that authorities in states including West Virginia, Kentucky, Virginia, California, Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Montana, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon, Texas and Arizona had interactions with Falls.

08-20-2015 09:49:56
chubbuh

no, she hasn’t been on yet
apparently she’s driving through an area with little to no cell reception

08-20-2015 09:51:48
ColoGal

okay thanks chubbuh. Colorado has some tricky cell areas

08-20-2015 09:52:17
chubbuh

i wonder if they’re looking at him in the long island serial killer case. The victims found in Manorville were all dismembered
and this falls guy also targets prostitutes

08-20-2015 09:54:01
takeitfromme

i wonder if he could be LISK… same M/O

08-20-2015 09:54:21
DeDee

backstage.com

08-20-2015 09:54:35
chubbuh

backpage not backstage

08-20-2015 09:54:44
DimeDetective

Good point, chubbuh. It might be a long shot, but if a recording of Falls’s voice exists, maybe they could play it for the sister of the LISK victim who got a call from the killer.

08-20-2015 09:54:48
DeDee

LOL thank you!

08-20-2015 09:54:49
takeitfromme

lol thats what i was thinking

08-20-2015 09:55:41
DeDee

Bessie!

08-20-2015 09:55:43
beach

Dime, I posted in the WS thread and added some links. I will be following and reading with fresh eyes. Don’t hesitate to PM me if I can help in anyway

08-20-2015 09:56:11
DimeDetective

Great, beach. Thank you. I’ll be in touch.

08-20-2015 09:58:16
DeDee

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?285481-TN-Wanda-June-Anderson-11-Nashville-15-July-1965
Great idea on Cold Cases every week.

08-20-2015 10:00:04
wendiesan

Thanks Dave, Tricia. Good night everyone.

08-20-2015 10:00:07
ColoGal

Elaine Hal 🙂
Hall

08-20-2015 10:00:26
takeitfromme

love the idea! cold cases every week

08-20-2015 10:00:29
Tricia

THANKS EVERYONE. I will try and get Elaine on for next week. I know she will be apologizing all over the place . I just want her to rest up though. She has enough on her plate. Thanks again

08-20-2015 10:00:35
DeDee

Thanks everyone! Enjoy your evening and the upcoming weekend!

08-20-2015 10:00:39
David Bailey

Thanks all, see ya next week

08-20-2015 10:00:47
takeitfromme

bye!

08-20-2015 10:01:09
DeDee

We need two hour podcasts!

08-20-2015 10:01:25
Linda Jean

‘Night!

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